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Black Gay Christians, Don’t Blame JESUS for the Social Clubs / Churches that won’t accept you!!
I guess this is for “gays” in general, but since the whole Donnie McClurken / Obama thing, I thought I addressed Black Gays who are Christian.
Let me submit two points before I go on:
One: I am not gay, so I will not pretend to know what a gay person goes through when a family, church or part of a community you have been part of REJECTS you based on who you love.
Two: Understand that theologically, the argument can be made that homosexual sex is sin; as well the argument could be made exegetically that homosexual sex is not sin but fornication is. Either way, the Christian church is supposed to reflect the LOVE OF CHRIST if you see people in what you believe sin or not.
I listened to Gina’s Thursday night podcast, and heard a brother named Terrence (Republic of T) talk about many of his horrible experiences as a gay man in the “Black Church”, I was truly mortified. Read More
He expressed why he left the Church and became a Buddhist, a choice I respect even if I do not agree with it. My point is this to gay Black Christians, if a church is rejecting you, it is not the same as JESUS rejecting you, there are gay and mixed congregations that will accept you, be with people who at least know how to give you love and support you need as a human being.
Listening to Terrance I began to understand something I had not before. You see, I did not grow up in the “Church”, I converted as an adult. I have no ties to any denomination or sect, I am a follower of JESUS. So I had a bit to learn about why gay Blacks in the church don’t simply leave, Terrance explained it to me pretty well.
THE CHURCH AS A SOCIAL / POLITICAL INSTITUTION:
The Black church from what I have found has been somewhat political since the days of slavery. The Black Church was where slaves had the smallest bit of peace they could find in their lives, the AME Church was instrumental in fighting the institution of slavery, the AME Church, the Missionary Baptist Church, the Church of God in Christ, etc. were instrumental in the Civil rights movement, so the church is political and social in a way that is unique to the African American community.
There were homosexuals that worked with Dr. King, so obviously they have been part of the Black church for sometime, lately, due to the evangelical right trying to sway the black Christian vote by focusing on so-called “family values” issues, there has been an upsurge of this homosexual persecution in the church. Here it is folks, even in a church where homosexuality is seen as sin, the fact is, it is a sin between consenting adults, sort of like the fornication and adultery if that is your theological take.
But I have heard the stupid and inane comparisons with “pedophilia”? Good Lord people, what the heck is that about? The fact the people could compare the two is scary.
My theory is that pastors who preach hard against homosexuality, are generally gay themselves and trying to come to terms with their sexuality in contrast to their theology. That’s fine, but don’t bash and hurt people because of your issues, how about PREACH ON THE GOSPEL and let the Holy Ghost do the rest?
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST:
Gay Christians, bottom line, it is between YOU and JESUS. You are supposed to be a Christian, that means FOLLOW JESUS. Show Him in Your Life, and teach others how to do the same. Don’t leave JESUS because of ANY GROUP that rejects you, your relationship should be PERSONAL and with JESUS above anything else.
O.K., I rant, I hope ya’ll got my point, I'm JUS' Saying...
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I’d bet that when the patrons of the Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church hopped on the old church bus to go protest against whatever, they never imagined that they would soon be 11 million dollars poorer. The members of this church decided that they would go and protest at the funeral of Marine Lance Cpl. Matt Snyder, who was killed in Iraq. They do this frequently, at military funerals around the country, by the way. Snyder’s father Albert, sued the church and won. The leaders of the church were ordered to pay $10.9 million in damages to the Snyder family. Now, this is just one of those cases where everyone involved (at the risk of being called insensitive) is full of shit. The only one who gets a pass is the father. He hasn’t done anything to anyone - he was just burying his son. I really don’t see how suing this church for all this money (most of which he will likely never receive) helps in any way to ease the pain of losing his son, but hey, who am i to tell him how to grieve. He has kind of this self-righteous American entitlement about him when discussing the settlement, which is the only reason i mention him, but i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. I guess he is really no different than any other parent who actually believes in the war that their child is has died in. If i’m being overly critical of this guy, please let me know.
Lets move on to this asshole Fred Phelps, the reverend of this church. He is also a disbarred attorney and all around hateful guy. Feel free to take a look at their site if you need more convincing, although it seems like the amount of hits they have gotten in the last day, has brought the site down (I forget that there is broadband in Klan country now). It just baffles me how people in a “civilized nation” can still be so ignorant.Read More Forget for a second about how backward and archaic this guy’s views are. I’m sure that this fire and brimstone preaching scum-bag, has the balls to get up every Sunday and preach about the bible and Christ and compassion and yet has the nerve to gather up his zombie followers to go and demean a grieving family at their loved one’s funeral. Now I am not one that has this great overwhelming sentiment for the troops that are killed while on foreign land killing others, Nonetheless, we are still talking about a human being losing his life and leaving behind those that will suffer from his absence. For this guy Phelps and his moronic followers to actually destroy the moment that a family is taking to say goodbye to someone they have lost and slander his name at his funeral proves that maybe not all death is sad. What I mean by that is Mr. Phelps is up there in his years and i’m sure there will be many who are willing to attend his funeral and rejoice in front of his family. At the risk of sounding like Ann Coulter, my only regret is that the soldiers on hand didn’t discharge their weapons and make that dream a reality. This guy is the lowest form of human existence. He deserves no pity from anyone, and he definitely wont get any from me.
Now on the other hand let’s take a look at the Courts, and at our Congress who has passed laws against such things. How in the hell do these people explain even passing even thinking of passing such laws, given all the crap the regurgitate about constitutional rights. As much of an asshole as Phelps and others before him have been, the Constitution says that it’s his first amendment right to be that asshole. While there is no away I will ever endorse this despicable act, even losers like this have the right to freedom of speech. Our government sings us that song every day. In fact, they have the american public brainwashed into believing that our troops are overseas fighting for this freedom. I guess what it boils down to is that each individual must decide what freedom of speech really means. Our government’s ability to change the definition of freedom on the fly works for us in this instance because we want to see this guy pay for being who he is, the question is whether or not we will also be able to accept this dynamic definition of freedom when the ruling is not in our favor.
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Lets move on to this asshole Fred Phelps, the reverend of this church. He is also a disbarred attorney and all around hateful guy. Feel free to take a look at their site if you need more convincing, although it seems like the amount of hits they have gotten in the last day, has brought the site down (I forget that there is broadband in Klan country now). It just baffles me how people in a “civilized nation” can still be so ignorant.Read More Forget for a second about how backward and archaic this guy’s views are. I’m sure that this fire and brimstone preaching scum-bag, has the balls to get up every Sunday and preach about the bible and Christ and compassion and yet has the nerve to gather up his zombie followers to go and demean a grieving family at their loved one’s funeral. Now I am not one that has this great overwhelming sentiment for the troops that are killed while on foreign land killing others, Nonetheless, we are still talking about a human being losing his life and leaving behind those that will suffer from his absence. For this guy Phelps and his moronic followers to actually destroy the moment that a family is taking to say goodbye to someone they have lost and slander his name at his funeral proves that maybe not all death is sad. What I mean by that is Mr. Phelps is up there in his years and i’m sure there will be many who are willing to attend his funeral and rejoice in front of his family. At the risk of sounding like Ann Coulter, my only regret is that the soldiers on hand didn’t discharge their weapons and make that dream a reality. This guy is the lowest form of human existence. He deserves no pity from anyone, and he definitely wont get any from me.
Now on the other hand let’s take a look at the Courts, and at our Congress who has passed laws against such things. How in the hell do these people explain even passing even thinking of passing such laws, given all the crap the regurgitate about constitutional rights. As much of an asshole as Phelps and others before him have been, the Constitution says that it’s his first amendment right to be that asshole. While there is no away I will ever endorse this despicable act, even losers like this have the right to freedom of speech. Our government sings us that song every day. In fact, they have the american public brainwashed into believing that our troops are overseas fighting for this freedom. I guess what it boils down to is that each individual must decide what freedom of speech really means. Our government’s ability to change the definition of freedom on the fly works for us in this instance because we want to see this guy pay for being who he is, the question is whether or not we will also be able to accept this dynamic definition of freedom when the ruling is not in our favor.
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